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Book to film scenes:THE SECOND FILM
For the past few months we have been engaged in discussion how best to transfer the written word of JRR Tolkien's THE HOBBIT into a film made by Peter Jackson and company.We started with the first line and went clear to the conclusion.  Now we are starting to tackle the second film   All are encouraged and welcomed to give your ideas. You can limit yourself to what Tolkien wrote or invent things out of whole cloth as you see fit.  We just want to know what would make a good film of the events before and after THE HOBBIT.    Please join in. The events that we may or may not want to consider happen in this order 2845 Thrain is imprisoned in Dol Guldur 2850 Gandalf enters Dol Guldur, confirms its master is Sauron, and his quest for the Rings of Power including the One Ring and Isuldurs heir, finds Thrain in the dungeon and is given the Key of Erebor. 2851 Gandalf meets with the White Council ...
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For the past few months we have been engaged in discussion how best to transfer the written word of JRR Tolkien's THE HOBBIT into a film made by Peter Jackson and company.We started with the first line and went clear to the conclusion.  Now we are starting to tackle the second film   All are encouraged and welcomed to give your ideas. You can limit yourself to what Tolkien wrote or invent things out of whole cloth as you see fit.  We just want to know what would make a good film of the events before and after THE HOBBIT.    Please join in.

 

The events that we may or may not want to consider happen in this order
2845 Thrain is imprisoned in Dol Guldur
2850 Gandalf enters Dol Guldur, confirms its master is Sauron, and his quest for the Rings of Power including the One Ring and Isuldurs heir, finds Thrain in the dungeon and is given the Key of Erebor.
2851 Gandalf meets with the White Council who reject a direct attack on DG - but Saruman begins his own search for the One Ring
2890 Bilbo is born in the Shire
2931 Aragorn son of Arathorn and Gilraen is born
2933 Arathorn is slain and Elrond adopts him, renames him Estel, and he is raised in Rivendell
2941 Main events of HOBBIT including finding of the One Ring by Frodo, Battle of Five Armies, killing of Smaug, Dain becomes King under the Mountain. The WHite COuncil attacks Dol Guldur and Sauron flees to Mordor
2942 Sauron begins to reestablish himself in Mordor
2949 Gandalf and Balin visit Bilbo in the SHire
2951 Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor and begins rebuilding the Barad-dur. Gollum journeys to Mordor and Sauron retakes DG with three Nazgul. Aragorn goes into the wild at age 20.
2953 WHite Council meets for the final time, Saruman says the Ring is lost in the ocean and he takes Isengard as his own base of operations, Arwen and Aragorn meet for the first time
2956 first meeting of Gandalf and Aragorn
2968 Frodo is born
2980 Arwen and Aragorn plight their troth
2989 Balin enters Moria
2994 dwarf colony is Moria is destroyed

 

Film2 - our version - will center around the basic struggle between good and evil. Good is seen through the character of Gandalf the Grey and his efforts to rally the Free Peoples of Middle-earth againt evil - the rise of the Dark Lord and Necromancer Sauron.
That theme, that struggle is the connection between all the various dots that are the events taken from the Appendices. "

 
 
 
 
 
 
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Foehammer Foehammer commented | 15 months ago
 
And so the behometh dies . . . too funny
 
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kac kac commented | 15 months ago
 
La fine!
 
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sauron the white sauron the white commented | 15 months ago
 
Since everyone is on the same page here with placing it in the Random section, so be it.
 
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Elanor Elanor commented | 15 months ago
 
As it is the season of Goodwill, I hope by posting now STW will achieve the very deserved post #4400, at which point it would be good to maybe close this thread and look forward to the grand opening of the new SIL book-to-film thread cyclopes

Thank you Sauron for creating this discussion thread, and bringing immense enjoyment and fellowship to so many of us. Long may it continue. ok
 
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Viola Viola commented | 15 months ago
 
I agree....it would go better in the Random Section.
 
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sauron the white sauron the white commented | 15 months ago
 
We will hold the question open until the end of the day then the majority opinion will be implemented. Thanks to all for their input.
 
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Blair Blair commented | 15 months ago
 
Yeah, I say new thread, in random talk as well
 
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Ethelwynn Ethelwynn commented | 15 months ago
 
Add another vote for Random Talk. This thread has become immense as it is, not that that's a bad thing.
 
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Elanor Elanor commented | 15 months ago
 
I think we should start a new thread in the Random Talk section, as this thread will become far too cumbersome to navigate effectively.
 
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naela naela commented | 15 months ago
 
Hm, in my opinion it would better fit in the random talk section then. Changing the title of this thread would make things too confusing.
 
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sauron the white sauron the white commented | 15 months ago
 
Welcome back Madrona.
We cannot ad a new category for our SIL thread.
It seems we have two choices here:
1- I can edit this title to change it to BOOKS TO FILM: SILMARILLION with matching description and we can keep right on going here
or
2- start a new thread in the Random Talk section with the same title.

I leave it up to you who will participate. Please voice your opinion.
 
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Elanor Elanor commented | 15 months ago
 
Ok, will look there ok
 
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naela naela commented | 15 months ago
 
Hm, I'm trying to send PMs but it doesn't work, and I'Ve tried to edit the post below to add this but that doesn't work, either. So I'll write on facebook cyclopes
 
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naela naela commented | 15 months ago
 
Ok, you'll have a PM very soon cyclopes
I don't think anybody is reading this thread, and I nearly hope nobody is, as they better spend their time writing their own script cyclopes Plus, I want to be surprised by the movie. If only it came out sooner....
If somebody wants his ideas to be read, I think he'd better go for torn, apparently the "officials" sometimes read there.
 
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Elanor Elanor commented | 15 months ago
 
Sure, Naela, just let me have your email via my profile and I'll get it to you straight away!

I quite agree regarding the officiality of this thread....if only someone important would read our efforts! cyclopes
 
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naela naela commented | 15 months ago
 
Madrona, welcome back! I hope you had a wonderful time and took many photos ok
Elanor, how "finished" is the master script now? If it is entirely finished, could I please get its final version? ok
Margaret, I don't see a danger there, it's only some musing of fans, just like my beloved wedding thread. And to me it seems that this "official" is just an empty name, I haven't seen anything really official here at all.
 
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Elanor Elanor commented | 15 months ago
 
Fantastic!!! Thanks so much for your posts, Madrona, and do keep in touch ok
 
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Madrona Madrona commented | 15 months ago
 
It has been a long road. I knew "The Warring Peace" of F2 would be completed before I could return. Congratulations on a task well done! I think this thread should end up after "a year and a day". That will be on December 22. I have followed this thread since the first post and officially joined in on January 2. Thanks so much to STW for sticking with it through all the ups and downs! I really want to focus on "The Hobbit" side of things myself. So, I'll await for official information to chew on. I wish I could retrieve our discussions on The Hobbit-was that the first 2,000 posts? Tee-hee! As a going away present--I had the pleasure of hearing GDT thank all of you for your passion and love of Tolkien's works. He admires and respects your dedication to following Tolkien's detailed descriptions of Middle Earth-in all it's forms. And, as of Nov. 27, he is officially working with WETA on Hobbit business. Happy Holidays everyone--it's been awesome!
 
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Margaret Margaret commented | 15 months ago
 
I would say that would be true of any other site, but this site is the 'offical movie blog' and is connected to the movie site. I do not know if the lawsuit is still pending or the progress of the court, but I would imagine the owners of the board (if they are part of the movie rights) would like to keep a fair bit of distance between infringing on the Tolkien Society rights of the SIL.
 
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sauron the white sauron the white commented | 15 months ago
 
Margaret --- our project is only fan fiction. It is going no further than right here. And the Estate has always been supportive of non-commercial fan fiction.
 
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