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Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 5 months ago
Well i suppose how the relationship would have developed would have depended largely upon what you beleive the results of his survival at Amon Hen would have entailed. Would the hobbits have been captured regardless? If they had i would suspect Boromir would likely have taken Aragorn's leave at Amon Hen anyway and gone on to Minas Tirith to pass on the knowledge he had gleaned at the council and ready the defences. If the hobbits hadnt been captured though would Aragorn have gone to Rohan at all? Or woul...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
Oh totally, and i'm of that age group myself :P (20). But do said age group only see films which have a like-aged protagonist? I suppose there's an appeal (i have had a glance at msn's feature on the top box office hits worldwide, there is a trend for films with young protagonists but then i suppose you cant argue against that with Harry Potter). But frankly when your average teenager comes out of the cinema and you ask them their favourite character it's rarely the angsty kid hero, it's Aragorn (purp...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
I do apologise BB- i've just read you're a McAvoy man. So what can i say in favour of Firth that i cant say in favour of him? They're both real dramatic actors who have dabbled in comedy and with a number of award nominations to their name. Well there's a couple of reasons. For a start and most obviously he just doesnt look 'Hobbity', particularly not 'Bilbo Bagginsy'. While we dont want a dead ringer for Ian Holm at the expense of acting ability, someone who could conceivably become the older Bilbo is p...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
I too just want the right Bilbo and while Martin Freeman (who is your 'horse'- you've said as much yourself) is adequate he "sure as hell" isnt right. And what shall we say of Martin Freeman? Go to the Martin Freeman for Bilbo thread and you will see much written about how he's so right based on Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Is the Hobbit just going to be a medieval prequel? As for a gormless everyman- i dont think Freeman's fans would use that term, that is certainly my own construction, but F...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
Chewie- i'm glad you at least appreciate the conviction and work that i have invested in what has almost become a vigilante mission to break down the preconceptions of 'one stop casting'. Like i said, i wouldnt be doing this if i didnt have an empassioned desire for the success of this film and its adherence to the spirit of Tolkien. Martin Freeman i daresay would do an adequate job (he'd be my second choice certainly) but i think both in terms of image and ability, Colin Firth would produce a far more i...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
Well excuse me if i take a mild degree of offense to presenting a cohesive argument and then having it shot down as a "superiority complex", being told to "just chill" and "oversimplifying" Bilbo (bloody hell, if my paragraph-long essay was your idea of oversimplifying i'd hate to see your idea of complex :P). I am simply trying to show you an "interesting angle" as Lalaithiel puts it on a character who is at the heart of this film. Fortunately it is not also "unique": Tom Shippey (if no-one else) agrees...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
Well personally i disagree and i disagree intensely. I think people have got Bilbo very wrong and have diluted much of what makes him an interesting character. The very worry you express about Colin Firth is precisely the same worry i have about Martin Freeman- he may be hobbitish and look similar to Ian Holm but he wont 'become' Bilbo and is 'totally wrong for the part'. I've said it too many times to count on this forum but hey, since this is the thread for championing Firth's cause i might as well ...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 8 months ago
Oh Dalgonor, as if that matters :P. The entire notion of proportions is that they dont change from person to person by and large. A fully grown adult of 6' will have the same proportions as someone of similar age who's 5'9". Besides- in the films the hobbits change size and shape all the time: the scale doubles are so easily spotted due to the strange proportions brought on by dwarfism for example. Get Colin to put on some pounds and get him into the big feet and hiked up trousers and he'll look as much ...... more     
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Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
I think trying to stress his acting credentials after you've 'fessed up to the fact his presence alone is what sells DVD's and basically making the generalisation that women will only watch a film if it's got a nice bit of trouser in it ("I hope GdT remembers that women make up half of his audience...Richard Armitage sells DVD's") is a bit like trying to lock the stable door after the horse has bolted (or in this case the rampant stallion of a man). Maybe i'm being a bit 'holier than thou' but being a gu...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
Well i'm not going to beat around the bush or mince my words- i think a good amount of the support for Richard Armitage comes simply from the fact a lot of you gals fancy him. He's a good actor but i think the 'totty factor' motivates the passion of his advocacy. Right, since pictures seem to be in style i thought i'd grab a few of Christopher Eccleston looking suitably 'Bard like' (by which i mean has a beard- de rigeur in all middle-earth circles). [img]http://www.redcross.org.uk/uploads/images/Ch...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
I'd put money on Martin Freeman but i'd put my faith in Colin Firth. To be honest i'm very nervous about it- this is the first time i have a strong opinion on the casting of a literary character- Lord of the Rings was already shot and nearing release by the time i picked up the books and here we are with the announcement pretty much 'any day now' and this decision is going to really colour my and i daresay all of your views of the film. I can console myself that Martin Freeman 'wouldnt be too bad' but i ...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
Boromir is one of a precious few occasions where i thought the film's portrayal was actually richer than in the book. Tolkien wrote Boromir as quite a two-dimensional character: the big strong man from the south, strong of arm weak of mind. By this standard you could say that Boromir is 'a jerk' or 'weak willed' (i do disagree with your idea that succumbing to the full force of the ring's malevolence is weak willed and undeserving of sympathy though). What the films did though, largely unintentionally it...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
Well in a sense you're right- it is very hard for actors to shake a famous role. My choice for Bilbo; Colin Firth, proves that very well, he will always be Mr Darcy to a large number of people, but in a sense that's why i love the idea of it, it plays against type. Anthony Hopkins is actually a very different person physically to the Lecter Thomas Harris describes and yet the resulting clash produced one of the most distinctive performances ever committed to celluloid. I cannot agree with your view that ...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
Well to be quite honest YMN, you wont 'see' him much at all. Considering the amount of prosthetics that becoming a dwarf entails, all likeness to Sir Hopkins as we know him will be erased and vocal similarities between Lecter and Thorin will be few considering the distinctive mid-atlantic purr that he adopted for Silence of the Lambs against his own welsh accent. I'm afraid i'm going to have to say that if Hopkins will always be Hannibal to you no matter what else he plays then perhaps it is a sign you l...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
I really do strongly disagree with the idea that Hopkins has ever been typecast. He'll be remembered for Lecter for sure- it gave him international fame but it is just one role in an extraordinarily varied career. With the exception of his role in 'Fracture' Hopkins has had no role that resembles the character of Lecter. What i would really loathe with Thorin is for the filmmakers to cast him just in the light of an arrogant, covetous dwarf. We've already seen 'Loud, angry dwarf' with Gimli and so wh...... more     
Dr Death created a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
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Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
"You're a bit outnumbered here, DD" Heh, so i see, though it's not exactly a mystery why :P, good actor though Armitage is, i would note the proportion of female advocates. And surely you're not comparing Christopher Eccleston to trolls, goblins and Gollum Dalgonar? ;) Bard's introduction, and the entire matter of the geopolitical relations of Esgaroth, Dale and the Iron Hills to Erebor is a challenge for the films. It does come rather as a shock as the reader exits Mirkwood with Bilbo and the barrel...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 9 months ago
Meh,i dont really agree with the Armitage suggestion, mainly for the reason Dalgonar cites as being a good thing- he could play any fantasy hero. There is nothing about Richard Armitage that shouts 'BARD!' to me, that exclusive match of character and actor which once formed is impossible to break in your mind's eye. He's also very much of the chiselled style of features- all long noses and brooding eyes which has been pretty much spelled out as the realm of Numenorean facial features and personally after...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
"casting seemed to be less about ability and more about a balance of both ability and image (as is usually the case). early in the 1st films casting, a relatively unknown (young) actor was chosen as aragorn...oh, the outrage. sean connery was suggested for gandalf, as well. looks matter almost more than ability and i believe martin freeman has enough of both to maintain the standard already set by these films." Well image and ability to play a role do tend to go hand in hand- we have moved on from the...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
Hehehehe, i see we have a severe difference in taste Uruk-hai, though how you manage to call me biased and then say people consider you to be exactly that strikes me as more than a little 'pot calling the kettle black'. I wouldnt say i'm biased (what can i be biased for? The dramatic community?) but i have my taste and you have yours. I too can separate Peter Jackson from Tolkien and the implication that i cant i consider to be a slur on my ability (i've actually professionally studied Tolkien so let...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
Well you should also bear in mind that Lord of the Rings was such an ensemble peice that with the exception of Ian Mckellen's bafta nomination no individual was even nominated for awards on their own from lotr. If there had been a 'best bitpart' oscar category LotR would have packed them out and Ian Holm as Bilbo would have been one of the front runners for FotR (though there would be stiff competition from Christopher Lee and Sean Bean)... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
I dont trust your judge of acting ability if you say Ian Holm's Bilbo was weak. For me it was one of the highlights of the first film. Some of his lines were a little idiosyncratic based on his acting method, but others such as the timeless "they've never forgiven me for living this long" were delivered fantastically. Based on your judgement of acting ability i would also say you're missing the huge void in ability between herr firth and herr freeman :) As for Tolkien not being shakespere- well no, no...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
Oh Laleithiel, must you make me slam my head against the wall 0:)? In both cases Arthur Dent and Bilbo Baggins, Martin Freeman was badly miscast (or would be miscast in the latter case). Perhaps in the former you can ignore it on the basis of rebooting a book set in what was at the time of writing, a modern time (just like James Bond hasnt become a period piece despite being written and set during the Cold War period). However in both cases the lead character is not an 'ordinary' sort, and particular...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
I dont think lesser known is neccessarily good. I would prefer someone with a bit of a reputation, but Sean Connery aint Smaug for me, not by a long shot. Smaug is one of the big reasons i love The Hobbit as a book and the reason he's so distinctive is he plays utterly against type and the modern expectations of how you would think a dragon should be. Up until Bilbo's encounter we are told Smaug is this terrible, feirce, firebreathing dragon, he's a monster, he's an inhuman reptile. The tension p...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
I dont think Colin Firth has ever played a character who could be described as 'dashing'. Darcy was by no means 'dashing', 'brooding' yes, even 'smouldering' but his one attempt at the 'action man' hero in the Last Legion was a muddled matter. What Colin Firth does well and where i think he would shine as Bilbo is he is very good at playing repressed men, not neccessarily tragically repressed men (as he did as Vermeer in 'Girl with a Pearl Earing') but men who are shackled behind manners, social codes, m...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
This i think is a large part of the rub with Martin Freeman- for the character Bilbo is in the books, a fastidious, bourgois, middle-english, middle-aged country squire Martin Freeman's bright, young 'working class boy made good' thing is right. I dont think Hitchhiker's Guide, a film where Ford Prefect was played by Mos Deff is really a suitable basis on which to draw direct analogies between the casting of Arthur Dent and Bilbo Baggins. Martin Freeman does have a very good resemblence to Ian Holm bu...... more     
Dr Death commented on a discussion thread on The Hobbit | 10 months ago
Why must the film-makers recycle the cast? Are you to say in all the world there isnt a single other person who can play a character from Tolkiens world other than those who have already done it? I dont like incestuous casting- i didnt particularly like it with Gimli and Treebeard and that was even with the benefit of having a big half-tree monster-man to disguise the joins. It would be confusing and stupid both to a casual audience or even to people who had read the books, knew the films, and had fo...... more     
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  • Dr Death  commented | 18 months ago
     
    Yeah, great, how about you?
     
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  • Tinuviel  commented | 18 months ago
     
    hey luv,thanx for the add....hows things across the pond?
     
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  • wolfhound  commented | 23 months ago
     
    LOTR can not help but have Christian themes because it's author has a world view shaped by his knowlege of the bible.Wolfhound
     
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